May 10, 2008

That’s a Wrap!

The two-day rookie mini camp (actually it’s 2.5 days as the players will have early morning meetings tomorrow before being sent on their way), is in the books. Having had some time to reflect on what I saw, I put together a few thoughts.

Remember: these are my opinions. Take them with a grain of salt until you see the players for yourself because as I wrote to the Inside Football subscribers, stars and busts aren’t made in the rookie mini camp.

Remember that this mini camp was nothing more than a massive orientation.  So with that said, here is my summary...

Most Impressive: Mario Manningham. I swore to myself this year I wouldn’t go ga-ga over the wide receiver mainly because the last two years when I’ve gone ga-ga over a drafted wide receiver, he’s ended up missing part s of the season due to injury. In fact now that I think of it, I wonder if I jinxed Manningham by waxing on so enthusiastically about him in my marathon 5,100-word day-one report? If I did, then I owe the kid an apology.

Seriously, Manningham might have some trouble expressing himself verbally, but he runs really nice routes and made several pretty catches on balls that weren’t exactly on the money. I also admire his confidence and his swagger. He remind me a lot of a young Plaxico Burress in that regard, and I think if Manningham puts in the effort that we saw from Burress in 2007, and he keeps his nose clean, he’s going to be something special.

Didn’t See Enough of: Kenny Phillips. Thank goodness for the video clips on the Giants first round draft pick from his days at Miami otherwise I probably still wouldn’t know a whole lot about him as a player. As a free safety, Phillips didn’t get a whole lot of opportunity in the first day of mini camp (possibly because it was in the bubble and not many plays were run at him). When he moved to strong safety, since there is no contact allowed in these drills, it was hard to really gauge his abilities there. But those chances that Phillips did get left me wanting to see more. I do have a good feeling about him as a ball hawk and I wouldn’t be shocked to see his weekly snaps increase to the point where he is starting by season’s end.

Most Disappointing: I hate to assign this category to anyone because it’s a rookie mini camp. These kids are coming in and being asked to learn a brand new system and execute it as best as they can, and all they really get on the first day is a couple hours at the most of meeting time to learn their assignments.

But you gotta do what you gotta do, and I have to give the nod to QB Andre' Woodson, who was inconsistent in his first day and who didn’t wow me on his second day before he was forced to the sideline with a pulled quad. What I still don’t understand is that every time we (the media) heard from Woodson, he was telling us how good he was doing.

Now granted, not all of the incomplete passes and drops were his fault, but I have to believe that SOME were of his doing. I also thought at times he took too long to make his reads and as I noted in my marathon report, he has a bit of a long windup (though not as bad as what Jared Lorenzen had when he was a rookie).

To be fair though, all of the quarterbacks in camp weren’t impressive on this initial showing, so it’s not just Woodson. And I do think with time and coaching he will get better. For now, though I don’t think Lorenzen has anything to worry about.

Most Surprising: (Tie) Linebackers Jonathan Goff and Bryan Kehl are a couple of playmakers just waiting to be born. It’s rather interesting as if memory serves me correctly, they were roommates for this camp which I found funny because Kehl is very outgoing whereas Goff is a man of a few words. But both are very athletic, very active players who share a hunger for wanting to be around the ball. Both had more than just a handful of moments this weekend where they flashed, and not surprisingly, both head coach Tom Coughlin and defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo spoke glowingly of both young men.

Keep Your Eye On: Terrell Thomas. He’s probably going to battle Kevin Dockery for the nickel position, and from what little I saw, I think he could best Dockery, a former undrafted free agent. I don’t know if Thomas will unseat Corey Webster as a starter just yet, but I do think this kid, who as the number two pick is drawing less attention than Super Mario at #3, is going to surprise a few people once he gets going in camp.  

Sleeper Pick: WR DJ Hall. I realize that this undrafted free agent has an uphill battle to make the roster given the numbers situation, and right now I’m picking him for the practice squad. However, as I’ve written before, I think the receiver battle is going to be the one to keep an eye on this summer. They have such incredible depth here (assuming everyone is healthy) that who’s to say GM Jerry Reese won’t try to swing a trade with someone, similar to what he did last year when he had an excess of running backs and he was able to get something for Ryan Grant?

While I know that the Giants haven’t given up on Sinorice Moss, for some reason I still think he’s the one player who might bring something of value if they do engineer a trade. But Moss isn’t going anywhere until at least training camp comes to a close – and even then there is no guarantee.

The Happiest Coaches: Receivers Coach Mike Sullivan and Special Teams Coordinator Tom Quinn. Sullivan must be drooling over the crop of receivers he has to work with this summer. Ditto for Quinn, who will have the pick of the litter as far as who he lines up on special teams this summer.  Actually all of the coaches have a nice crop of talent to work with, but receiver and special teams are going to be two areas I think are going to be most interesting to see unfold. 

The “Yuck” Moment: For those of you who like the little behind the scenes stuff that never makes it into print, I’ll share a quick story. When I met one of the rookies – I won’t say who in order to protect the young and innocent – as I always do, I extended my hand as I introduced myself.

Well this particular rookie must have been caught off guard by my best business manners because when he went to reciprocate the handshake, apparently he forget he was clutching something, um, slimy in his paw -- a wad of used tissues. SThe rookie, realizing what had happened, quickly discarded the offending wad into the nearest trash bin, but it was too late. I had been “christened.”

And in case you’re wondering, no I didn’t embarrass the kid. I calmly did the interview -- after all I had requested the young man so if I'm going to drag them away from whatever it is they do during their break, I'm going to follow through. I thanked the kid when we were done, and then I discretely took care of the, um, problem. 

Final Thoughts: When I look at the rookies – and granted I didn’t get a chance to look at every single one brought into camp, but my overall impression was possible, even with the sloppiness of the first and second days. It’s clear that Jerry Reese and the front office favors speed, athleticism and versatility, and I think every single player on that mini camp roster, whether he’s signed or not, brings that to the table, some more than others.

These young men are eager pupils who, to my eyes, didn’t seem like they were in awe of the fact that they were attempting to become a part of the defending Super bowl champions. They also handled themselves well in front of the media, which peaks volumes about their maturity.

The next step for them, as I have said before, will be to see how they do with the veterans. Certainly we’ll want to look for improvement as the level of competition increases and the speed of the game goes up a few notches. But even then, because of the limited contact in spring camps, we still won’t know for certain whom the cream of the crop will be.

But I will say this. Having entered my coverage of this camp with a lukewarm feeling about the draft class and the rookies in general, I have a much different perspective now. I’m looking forward to seeing these guys again on the gridiron and I feel confident that once they begin working with their position coaches on a daily basis, many of them will improve by leaps and bounds the next time we, the media, get to see them in action.

Up Next: As I mentioned, they’ll have some early morning meetings tomorrow and then be sent on their way. The rookies can then rejoin the team this Friday at which time they’ll meet the veterans, who will be back from their week off from the off-season conditioning program.

The Organized Team Activities (OTAs) start on May 30th, and the whole team should be there -- with most likey guys who haven’t been cleared medically, or who might be contemplating retirement or who might not be happy with their role on the team.   That's another blog for another day.

Anyway, thanks for reading.

Spags on Phillips, Goff and More

Normally defensive Coordinator Spagnuolo has the answers to the tough questions.

Shut down prolific offenses like Dallas and Green Bay? No problem.

Stop the so-called unstoppable New England offense?

Piece of cake.

But when it came to dealing with the inquisitive New York media, who was looking for answers about the Giant’s first round draft pick Kenny Phillips, Spagnuolo either didn’t have the answers or wasn’t ready to give them.

For example, when asked if whether Phillips reminds him of Philadelphia’s Brian Dawkins, Spagnuolo didn’t hesitate with his response. “I am not going to make that statement.  I have said this before; Brian Dawkins is a special guy.  You are talking about a guy coming out of college… I mean we are getting a little bit ahead of ourselves.”

Ok, fair enough. So how about if Phillips will be able to make an impact on a defense at some point?

We will see,” he said, sounding a lot like head coach Tom Coughlin. “You stand there and make that statement today… that is a lot of pressure on a guy.  All these guys take their natural jump from college to the pros and it is a learning process and we will let it take its course.  We obviously think he has some potential to be pretty good.”

Obviously. But at what position?

Again no clear cut response from Spagnuolo. I am not going to classify him either way.  What we are doing with him right now is we are having him play left and right so he learns both.  Right now you see him either always on the right or always on the left, which means he is basically playing free and strong.  As we go through we will assess where we should kind of slide him in there.”
Alrighty. I guess you have to give credit to Spagnuolo for deflecting the pressure off of Phillips as he becomes acclimated too life in the NFL.  

Now onto some other questions for which Spagnuolo did have some answers.

On what he’s seen from draft picks Bryan Kehl and Jonathan Goff: “Both of them are good sized guys and Jonathan Goff has a very good presence about himself in front of the huddle, which you need as a mike linebacker.  To me Bryan (Kehl) is a very good athlete, which we kind of need in our outside linebackers so I am very pleased at this point.”

On whether Goff, who thus far has been a man of few words with the media, is more vocal in the huddle: “I wouldn’t say vocal, but at least he is a commanding presence.  I look at that always right away with my mike linebacker.”

On what Kehl, who played a 3-4 in college, needs to do to make the transition t a 4-3:
“Well the natural transition from that particular situation is that when you put him back off the ball in front of the offensive linemen he has some schemes that he has to read.  That is just like when we put Kiwi there last year.”

On whether the Giants will move Mathias Kiwanuka back to defensive end if Michael Strahan retires: “What is today’s date?  We kind of committed to this thing last year and he made some strides.  You know how it is, soon you could have an injury here, an injury there, and you have to get the best players on the field you make adjustments, but right now he is working to be a linebacker.”

On his gut feeling regarding which way Strahan is leaning: “I have not had conversations with Mike.  My policy has always been that I don’t bother the players.  I have a great deal of respect for him and I will respect Michael on whatever he decides.  I love the guy.  I love being around him and what he brings to the team, but I want to respect his decision.”

As The Tight End Turns

It’s the topic that refuses to die, the never-ending saga of “As the Tight End Turns.”

This time, Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbrdige found himself being peppered with questions which sought some sort of truth – any bit – about how the tight end feels and if he has indeed told the organization he wants out.

And so, Gilbride spent the better part of his ten or so minutes with the media trying to address thsose questions, though he did stop short of revealing what was said between him and Shcokey when the two spoke recently.

“It is so nebulous right now,” Gilbride said of Shockey’s situation. “You just have no idea what is going to happen.  Right now he is on our team and we are planning on him being there.  He will be one of the guys that we look to feature and one of the guys that we will look to depend on and hopefully he will be here in good spirits and ready to do the things that we know he is capable of doing, but who knows?  It is certainly beyond my hands.”

One thing Gilbride did dispute was the belief that Shockey’s loss was the catalyst for the emergence of QB Eli Manning. “I think it is more of rather than Jeremy leaving it was more Steve Smith coming back.  That is what a lot of people don’t realize.  It was Steve Smith’s return.  You look at him in the Dallas game in our opener he did some good things, he caught the pass on the third down conversion in Green Bay and all of a sudden we don’t have him again until Buffalo.  Then he comes back and little by little… I thought his emergence really has helped, and also the play the entire group contributed.”

Gilbride did admit that he had a conversation with the tight end, but when pressed for details, he kept declining to give them. However, when asked if the reports of the tight end being unhappy wit his role in the offense were true, Gilbride defended Shockey.

“You know 90 percent of it is coming from you guys, to be quite honest, and I just listen and read and hear what you guys are saying and hear what our organization’s responses are to your inquiries, but when I spoke to him I just told him in essence I hope he comes back and if he does come back I am looking forward to working with him and I think his teammates and coaches all feel like I do.  That we will be a better football team because he is here and I just wanted to make sure that he understood that.”

But when asked if Shockey said he wants to come back, Gilbride said, “It wouldn’t be fair for me to divulge what was said by him and I would feel very uncomfortable in doing that.  I would feel like I was betraying a confidence, but we had a good talk.  The most important thing is that I wanted him to know the way that I felt.”

Draw your own conclusions here – and I’m sure many people will. But know that Gilbride and the Giants say that they want Shockey to be a part of the team this year.

Whether or not it will happen, and whether the two sides can peacefully co-exist if they are together remains to be seen.


Woodson, Manningham Hurt

QB Andre' Woodson has been sitting on the sidelines now for several minutes, watching the action from the rehab area. From what I could tell, he might have pulled a muscle in his leg in an 11 on 11 drill in which he rolled out on a passing play.

When he got off the cart, he appeared to be walking gingerly.

I am sure the topic will come up when we get to speak to head coach Tom Coughllin in a bit, so I will update you as soon as I can. Update:

Both Woodson and receiver Mario Manningham both suffered soft tissue injuries , Woodson a quad injury and Manningham is said to have a hip injury.  Both will not practice this afternoon.

May 09, 2008

Rookie Mini Camp: Day 1

First, my apologies about the blog situation earlier today. Last night I tested everything to make sure it was all working, and of course today, when I got to the stadium, my wireless card kept dying on me, and the site that hosts this blog decided it didn’t want me to share anything new with you guys.

So here we go, a few highlights from both practice sessions:

* If I had to pick one undrafted free agent who really stood out, it was WR DJ Hall (alabama), who just seemed to catch everything thrown his way. And given how the quarterbacks in camp were throwing the ball, there were quite a few challenging balls for the receivers to go after.

* Mario Manningham also impressed me in that he has a really quick first step off the ball, breaks well and has good balance. He made a couple of nice catches in the morning practice, including one on a ball that was overthrown. Healso seemed to have the best balance of the receivers I saw in that when he had to stop and change direction, he didn’t stumble or fall as some of the other rookies did.

* Kenny Phillips might not have gotten a lot of chances today in coverage, but when he did, he made the most of them. He picked of an Andre Woodson pass in the afternoon session, a ball that bounced off of free agent hopeful TE Jawad Nesheiwat’s hands. I also saw him chase down a couple of running backs on sweeps to his side of the field. He has good speed and good instincts.

* It was a mixed bag for QB Andre Woodson. In the morning session I thought he was flat out awful, but remember, he and his fellow rookie class had about an hour’s worth of meetings before being asked to go out on the field and try to run plays using terminology they weren’t necessarily accustomed to. Woodson also had some center-QB exchange problems with Digger Bujnoch and on a couple of occasions, he had miscommunications with his receivers in which they went one way and he threw the ball the other. But in the afternoon, Woodson, who while still not perfect, drastically cut down on his mistakes. Woodson, to my eyes, seems to have a bit of a long wind-up, something he acknowledged during the mid-day interviews. The good news is though that QB Coach Chris Palmer was actively working with him to help him quicken his wind-up and release.

* LB Jonathan Goff stood out on numerous occasions with his ability to chase down ball carriers. In fact on nearly every play he was in, he was around the ball.  He moves quite well for a guy his size (6-2, 236 lbs.). He can probably add another 10 pounds of bulk to his frame, as can many of the other rookies, but so far I’d say that he’s off to a good start as he's an aggressive player who is not afraid to stick his nose into the action.

Speaking of Goff, today was his college's commencement ceremonies. He said his mother and brother attended the ceremonies in his place while he becomes acquainted with his new employer.

* Terrell Thomas was also impressive. He did a nice job of staying on the receivers’ hip, and broke up about three passes between both sessions. He did get burned a few times, once by Mario Manningham who out muscled Thomas for the ball. Overall Thomas looked like he too was off to a good start.

*  TE Eric Butler and OG Carnell Stewart had their free agent contracts terminated after failing their respective team physicals. And QB Jeremy Young, who began the day (rather shakily I might add), as a quarterback, appeared to have switched to receiver.

* And for those who missed the news, head coach Tom Coughlin said that he has had a conversation with DE Michael Strahan, who worked out at the team’s facility as recently as Thursday. However, Strahan apparently isn’t’ close to making a decision about his future.

Hopefully tomorrow the blog will be working the way it’s supposed to be, and I’ll be able to post more frequently. For now I’m off to work on the rest of the write-ups from today and some web stuff… drop by the site at www.InsideFootball.com as I’ll be updating probably until I go to bed tonight.

Thanks for reading.